Oprah Winfrey hosted her 2020 Vision: Your Life in Focus Tour with WW, Saturday at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn, New York.
Oprah's tour is a part of her motivational campaign to inform fans about her personal wellness journey and how to develop their plans. The Brooklyn event featured an intimate, one-on-one conversation with Michelle Obama, who described how she adjusted in her marriage with Barack.
The first lady told an audience of about 15,000 that she and the former president had counseling for their marriage. Michelle was candid about her experiences with Barack, saying that she needed a counselor to evaluate her situation, what defines her happiness, with objectivity.
"Sometimes you need an objective person to just hear you out," she said, "It taught me that I was responsible for my own happiness. I didn't marry Barack for him to make me happy. No one can make me happy."
"If I'm going to show up equal in this partnership, I have to be able to make myself happy and so I had to stop focusing on what he wasn't doing and start thinking about how to carve out the life that I wanted for myself, with or without Barack," Michelle said. "The more I succeeded in defining myself for myself, the better I was in my partnership."
Oprah asked a series of questions that dove deeper into Michelle's troubled marriage: "And you call [Barack] your soul-affirming partner?"
"Is it more so now in 28 years than earlier. Does it keep getting better? Or it's more seasoned?"
In her response, Michelle confirms that Barack is her soulmate that keeps on getting better with time.
The first lady also stated that she is "trying to tell young people. Marriage is hard and raising a family together is a hard thing. It takes a toll."
It is no secret that the Obamas had a rocky relationship before they became the powerful political duo known today.
Michelle had already opened up about her struggles in her memoir, Becoming, and she addressed it on several interviews.
In an appearance on The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon, Michelle said she took Barack to couple therapy with the expectation that it would "fix" him.
"I was one of those wives who thought, 'I'm taking you to marriage counseling so you can be fixed, Barack Obama.' Because I was like, 'I'm perfect.' I was like, 'Dr. X, please fix him,'" she said.
"And then, our counselor looked over at me. I was like, 'What are you looking at? I'm perfect.'"
As mentioned, the Obamas have been married since 1992 with this year's October 3 being their 28th anniversary.
In addition to being happily married, both their children, Malia, 21, and Sasha, 18, are already or going away for college, leaving the Obamas free of their parently obligations.